It’s good to know that Hornady is spending time, money, and effort on worthwhile projects. Is Superformance 5.56 ammo shooting under 3 MOA yet? No? Well, who cares! They made a red polymer yellow and put it in a fancy box!
Superformance 5.56 ammunition is a different animal entirely from the two that you mention. It uses a “new” powder that allows much higher velocities within various pressure limits. Unfortunately, it is also relatively inaccurate.
No 12ga. Really, a proper zombie gun is an SBR shotgun with sabot slugs. When they start clawing their way thru the sheetrock, a low penetration HD gun isn’t what you need. Pick up something that can and will stop them, whether or not they are even in the same room.
Even zombies hesitate when they hear a shotgun racking, it’s either go big or join the hive. And no, please don’t ask how I know. I’m trying to forget that weekend in Phenix City.
I find it funny how so many corporations and what not playing to the Z-War crowd. Doesn’t the CDC have stuff for Zombies? Ammo companies, and didn’t the Army come out with a FM for it? Or is that just me seeing headlines and not clicking the link…
Oh, and I don’t know if it has been available before, I never looked but I was looking for hunting ammo and I saw that 77gr MK318 Mod 0 is available so…
Yeah, I am finding that out with all my reading… Might end up with Winchester Power Point 64gr or 60gr Nosler Partition. I want a heavier bullet though. A 75gr Swift would be nice but the only place I’ve seen them cost $200 for 100 rounds! I need to start reloading…
Well, those Swifts are expensive even if you reload. The Partition would be a good choice as well. Have you thought about the 70gr TSX?
I’ve looked at that one as well, it’s about $66 for 50 rounds. Only one company loads the 70gr as a factory load. [url]http://store.chencustom.com/223_SOLID_DEFENSE_X_70_gr_Barnes_Copper_TSX_s/92.htm[/url] I guess that is reasonable but man, that much money on some bullets, ouch. I like to shoot groups to ensure accuracy and with ammo that expensive I’d cry a little with every shot! Winchester 64gr PP are $17 for 20 and the Nosler 60gr Partitions are $23 for 20. Both cheaper then the TSX. Also read an interesting article on some of these rounds here [url]http://www.rathcoombe.net/sci-tech/ballistics/tactical/tactical-test.html[/url]
Reading that link, I wonder why you like the Power-Point load – it seemed to underperform (especially when looking at penetration) compared to practically every other round tested.
The wound channel seemed being bigger deeper in
“but it made a significantly larger cavity at much greater depth than either of these.” (referencing the 64gr Power Point)
I do like the Partitions though because of the better penetration. I’ve also read some good things on AR15.com about the Power Points. Of course lots of guys also really like the Partitions as well.
I am still kind of torn on what to put my money on though… they are both similarly priced so, I don’t know. I over think this stuff usually 🙂
I had typed up a response twice and I guess it was too big or maybe because I tried to post links. So anyway, yes a have looked at them but only 1 company makes them. While looking at all the data the Winchester PP seem to have the “Best” factory performance with terminal ballistics.
Guys,
Can anybody explain , does this ammunition have any new features or improvements or it is just a joke ???
I think I’ll pick up a box and try it coyote hunting this winter. I’ve had terrible luck with 55 grain Remington AccuTips. I bought some 55 grain Hornady V-Max’s but never got a chance to try it on a coyote last year. I really wish they would make something like this in a heavier grain than 55!
Hornady has jumped the shark. This is the worst marketing screw-up I’ve ever seen ANY shooting products company make. This might get a few extra sales from the idiot crowd, but will drive away their customer base of reloaders, serious hunters and LE. Can you imagine an LE agency fielding Hornady and being asked if it was their zombie line?
Shame, shame SHAME on Hornady. Guns and ammo are for serious use only. It’s not supposed to be FUN. There’s no crying in baseball and there’s no fun in shooting!!!
Lighten up people. You’ll live longer. That and when you’re serious 100% of the time you wind up constipated more often than not.
Yeah, yeah. It would be all well and good if Hornady had the rest of their crap together lately – but they don’t, and they’re concentrating on BS like this rather than fix serious problems with their supposedly premium ammunition.
I do lots of fun stuff with shooting, even occasionally a match that features “zombies”. But I don’t use $1/round JHP defensive ammo for shooting that cardboard, and I don’t make slick Hollywood-style films showing that I’m using zombie ammo against humans with nasty red scars, and I sure don’t manufacture and sell a line of ammo that is “zombie use only” which just happens to be identical to ammo I sell specifically for defensive use, both to civilians and police agencies, all the while putting the world’s stupidest dishonest disclaimer on the ammo box to pretend all is well.
I would be less bothered by this if the chosen ammo had been their steel match line (or any cheap FMJ) rather than defensive rounds, and if the disclaimer had not been so ridiculously stupid.
You don’t because you’re not Hornady. They don’t need apporval from their customers to do anything. They’ve got enough money that they could mess around with something like this. And if they lose a couple of uptight customers in the process then I doubt they will lose sleep over it. Am I going to buy some of that Z-max ammo? Maybe not. Or I might but not to shoot. Just for a conversation piece. But I’m still a fan of the XTP. Still a fan of their dies (recently snagged a set in .44 Automag for my AR-10). And this marketing shtick bothers me not one bit. I doubt they were thinking dollar signs with fans of the genre buying cases of the stuff when they could buy cheap FMJ’s (more than adequate versus “zombie hordes”).
Anyway, I’m sure this line is only temporary. Or they will revert it to target rounds with the tips painted glow in the dark green or something. But don’t expect them to beg for your forgiveness for such a horrible tresspass.
Hey, I’m not an idiot, but I’ll probably buy a box or two just for the laugh factor. I might even throw the empty box and a toy gun in a display case with an “In case of emergency” label and hang it up somewhere – maybe not in my lab, the university would probably frown upon that even though (because?) everybody in the lab has prior shooting experience.
Either way, lighten up, it’s a marketing gimmick timed for halloween. My only real question is which line of ammo are they similar to and are they good enough to cycle out the golden saber that have been in one of my carry guns for the last while?
From your opening paragraph, quote “It’s good to know that Hornady is spending time, money, and effort on worthwhile projects. Is Superformance 5.56 ammo shooting under 3 MOA yet? ”
Well, I tested a new lot of Hornady Superformance ammo 5.56 75gr and it looks like it has improved.
I posted up my review on M4C in the ammo section, check it out.
I understand, but did you note that was with a 3x scope with a 2 m.o.a. dot covering a 1″ bullseye? I would expect a 10x Leupold scope with a fine line cross-hair on a rifle set in a bench sled to do better than I did, but someone else will have to prove it because I don’t have the equipment. It does look, though, like the initial stuff released last year disappeared from the shelves after poor reviews, and now it is back with a different bullet.
I haven’t noticed a massive difference between my 3x ACOG groups and my 10x scope groups. A statistical difference, sure, but not anything to make me spend all my time shooting the latter instead of the former. In fact, at 600 yards, I’ve outshot myself with an AR-15/ACOG as opposed to a bolt action rifle with a 10x scope.
I shoot their regular .223 match (8026, not superformance) out of my AUG and manage better than 3MOA… and that’s with a quick-detach barrel.
I’ve had some of their match 5.56 kicking around, haven’t tried it yet.
Their regular match ammunition, yes.
Superformance 5.56 ammunition is a different animal entirely from the two that you mention. It uses a “new” powder that allows much higher velocities within various pressure limits. Unfortunately, it is also relatively inaccurate.
Seeing as the accepted way to kill a zombie is with a shot to the brain, wouldn’t bulk packed FMJ be a better choice?
Good to know. Now I don’t have to spend the $$$ to try it out!
Two weeks to Halloween!
No 12ga. Really, a proper zombie gun is an SBR shotgun with sabot slugs. When they start clawing their way thru the sheetrock, a low penetration HD gun isn’t what you need. Pick up something that can and will stop them, whether or not they are even in the same room.
Even zombies hesitate when they hear a shotgun racking, it’s either go big or join the hive. And no, please don’t ask how I know. I’m trying to forget that weekend in Phenix City.
I find it funny how so many corporations and what not playing to the Z-War crowd. Doesn’t the CDC have stuff for Zombies? Ammo companies, and didn’t the Army come out with a FM for it? Or is that just me seeing headlines and not clicking the link…
Oh, and I don’t know if it has been available before, I never looked but I was looking for hunting ammo and I saw that 77gr MK318 Mod 0 is available so…
Hey Bill,
Mk318 is 62gr – make sure you’re buying the stuff you want to buy!
Oh it might have said that:) I only glanced as I focused on the 77gr SMK Federal BTHP for deer season.
Well, the Mk318 would be great for deer too – and better weight retention/less wasted meat.
Yeah, I am finding that out with all my reading… Might end up with Winchester Power Point 64gr or 60gr Nosler Partition. I want a heavier bullet though. A 75gr Swift would be nice but the only place I’ve seen them cost $200 for 100 rounds! I need to start reloading…
Well, those Swifts are expensive even if you reload. The Partition would be a good choice as well. Have you thought about the 70gr TSX?
I’ve looked at that one as well, it’s about $66 for 50 rounds. Only one company loads the 70gr as a factory load. [url]http://store.chencustom.com/223_SOLID_DEFENSE_X_70_gr_Barnes_Copper_TSX_s/92.htm[/url] I guess that is reasonable but man, that much money on some bullets, ouch. I like to shoot groups to ensure accuracy and with ammo that expensive I’d cry a little with every shot! Winchester 64gr PP are $17 for 20 and the Nosler 60gr Partitions are $23 for 20. Both cheaper then the TSX. Also read an interesting article on some of these rounds here [url]http://www.rathcoombe.net/sci-tech/ballistics/tactical/tactical-test.html[/url]
This was marked as spam – probably because of the link. Yeah, the solid copper bullets are expensive – http://www.ssarmory.com/556ammunition-70gr-leadfree.aspx
Reading that link, I wonder why you like the Power-Point load – it seemed to underperform (especially when looking at penetration) compared to practically every other round tested.
The wound channel seemed being bigger deeper in
“but it made a significantly larger cavity at much greater depth than either of these.” (referencing the 64gr Power Point)
I do like the Partitions though because of the better penetration. I’ve also read some good things on AR15.com about the Power Points. Of course lots of guys also really like the Partitions as well.
I am still kind of torn on what to put my money on though… they are both similarly priced so, I don’t know. I over think this stuff usually 🙂
I had typed up a response twice and I guess it was too big or maybe because I tried to post links. So anyway, yes a have looked at them but only 1 company makes them. While looking at all the data the Winchester PP seem to have the “Best” factory performance with terminal ballistics.
Guys,
Can anybody explain , does this ammunition have any new features or improvements or it is just a joke ???
No, and no.
Hey , maybe new polymer tip works as kinda tracer ???
No.
I think I’ll pick up a box and try it coyote hunting this winter. I’ve had terrible luck with 55 grain Remington AccuTips. I bought some 55 grain Hornady V-Max’s but never got a chance to try it on a coyote last year. I really wish they would make something like this in a heavier grain than 55!
Nevermind. I just saw the instructions at the end of the video “for zombie use only.” lol.
I always thought “zombies” was a slang term for liberals, hmmmm, I guess some people are talking about real zombies……
Hornady has jumped the shark. This is the worst marketing screw-up I’ve ever seen ANY shooting products company make. This might get a few extra sales from the idiot crowd, but will drive away their customer base of reloaders, serious hunters and LE. Can you imagine an LE agency fielding Hornady and being asked if it was their zombie line?
I agree. To me, Hornady was pretty much the premier large ammunition manufacturer. This has definitely cheapened the brand image.
Shame, shame SHAME on Hornady. Guns and ammo are for serious use only. It’s not supposed to be FUN. There’s no crying in baseball and there’s no fun in shooting!!!
Lighten up people. You’ll live longer. That and when you’re serious 100% of the time you wind up constipated more often than not.
Yeah, yeah. It would be all well and good if Hornady had the rest of their crap together lately – but they don’t, and they’re concentrating on BS like this rather than fix serious problems with their supposedly premium ammunition.
I do lots of fun stuff with shooting, even occasionally a match that features “zombies”. But I don’t use $1/round JHP defensive ammo for shooting that cardboard, and I don’t make slick Hollywood-style films showing that I’m using zombie ammo against humans with nasty red scars, and I sure don’t manufacture and sell a line of ammo that is “zombie use only” which just happens to be identical to ammo I sell specifically for defensive use, both to civilians and police agencies, all the while putting the world’s stupidest dishonest disclaimer on the ammo box to pretend all is well.
I would be less bothered by this if the chosen ammo had been their steel match line (or any cheap FMJ) rather than defensive rounds, and if the disclaimer had not been so ridiculously stupid.
You don’t because you’re not Hornady. They don’t need apporval from their customers to do anything. They’ve got enough money that they could mess around with something like this. And if they lose a couple of uptight customers in the process then I doubt they will lose sleep over it. Am I going to buy some of that Z-max ammo? Maybe not. Or I might but not to shoot. Just for a conversation piece. But I’m still a fan of the XTP. Still a fan of their dies (recently snagged a set in .44 Automag for my AR-10). And this marketing shtick bothers me not one bit. I doubt they were thinking dollar signs with fans of the genre buying cases of the stuff when they could buy cheap FMJ’s (more than adequate versus “zombie hordes”).
Anyway, I’m sure this line is only temporary. Or they will revert it to target rounds with the tips painted glow in the dark green or something. But don’t expect them to beg for your forgiveness for such a horrible tresspass.
Hey, I’m not an idiot, but I’ll probably buy a box or two just for the laugh factor. I might even throw the empty box and a toy gun in a display case with an “In case of emergency” label and hang it up somewhere – maybe not in my lab, the university would probably frown upon that even though (because?) everybody in the lab has prior shooting experience.
Either way, lighten up, it’s a marketing gimmick timed for halloween. My only real question is which line of ammo are they similar to and are they good enough to cycle out the golden saber that have been in one of my carry guns for the last while?
From your opening paragraph, quote “It’s good to know that Hornady is spending time, money, and effort on worthwhile projects. Is Superformance 5.56 ammo shooting under 3 MOA yet? ”
Well, I tested a new lot of Hornady Superformance ammo 5.56 75gr and it looks like it has improved.
I posted up my review on M4C in the ammo section, check it out.
I’m not trying to be a jerk, but when I said “under 3 MOA,” I meant something slightly “more under” than 2.86 MOA.
I understand, but did you note that was with a 3x scope with a 2 m.o.a. dot covering a 1″ bullseye? I would expect a 10x Leupold scope with a fine line cross-hair on a rifle set in a bench sled to do better than I did, but someone else will have to prove it because I don’t have the equipment. It does look, though, like the initial stuff released last year disappeared from the shelves after poor reviews, and now it is back with a different bullet.
I haven’t noticed a massive difference between my 3x ACOG groups and my 10x scope groups. A statistical difference, sure, but not anything to make me spend all my time shooting the latter instead of the former. In fact, at 600 yards, I’ve outshot myself with an AR-15/ACOG as opposed to a bolt action rifle with a 10x scope.