In this video, I discuss the rumors of DHS purchasing enough ammo to kill everyone in the solar system 14,000 times. See these links for more info:
http://www.businessinsider.com/homeland-security-serving-warrants-mrap-2013-3
http://www.ifitweremyhome.com/compare/US/AF
Glad someone finally said the PAINFULLY obvious. Excluding the fact that Alex Jones is a delusional, anti-military, drooling nutjob, it should also be noted that infowars is basically a paranoid circle jerk of a website.
You look just like Rick Taylor…man, dead ringer. Also, you seem to have your wrists bound behind your back, judging by the strange way you are moving your shoulders and arms in this video. Are you tied up, Andrew? Is someone forcing you to make this video?
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The chair is against the wall, john has a long mustache………
In all seriousness, Andrew, thanks for this video. It adds a sane voice to what is a cacophony of (uninformed?) opinions out there. I am interested, however, in whether the figures you cited (the ceiling figures, not the line-item figures) are normal, historically speaking. Has there been a time that domestic federal law enforcement agencies have issued an IDIQ contract that had a ceiling as high as this one? The figures cited are helpful, but a comparison of historical figures would shed more light on the situation.
Yeah, I looked at prior contracts. While they were smaller overall, they were for subcommands only (ICE instead of DHS as a whole) and matched the rounds/agent ratio.
“… against, essentially, everyone in America with a gun.”
It’s funny because it’s true.
Your reasonable explanation here won’t get any more traction than it did on militarytimes. There’s no room for cogent thinking when the government is out to get you.
I’m just glad the DHS didn’t order 50,000 new M&P17’s. IT’S A BATTLE WEAPON.
Thanks for this very good video, Andrew. You also bring up the point that we need to be focused and unified at this time, and pathetic distractions like this one can easily separate us. I think there’s just a lot of paranoia going on right now with a lot of people who have just lost a lot of faith in government. But your’s is the voice of reason – thanks for clarifying this and many other issues.
Thanks.
Hmm indefinite delivery contracts sound like a fairly common instrument. It would be funny to see “DHS buys 1 million step ladders and 500 million paperclips: preparing to file every American twice over” as a headline.
I think I’ve been filed over at least twice 🙁
Damn! Now I have to take of my tin hat – just when it was getting comfortable. Ha ha. Thank you for all the work you do Andrew. Great job.
You… you… you just stop with your stupid “facts” now! WOLVERINES!
Great video.
Andrew, I appreciate finding your website more *every* day. You pile on proven numbers that keep me from investing in tinfoil and off-market MRE’s and give me something to trot out during our weekly Hooter’s gabfest that make me look “all smart and stuff”. 🙂
Yup, I read Government contracts and purchase orders for a living, and you are correct…this is a five year IDIQ for the whole overarching agency, and on that basis the quantities are not unreasonable.
You’re no fun discussing conspiracies. Go away, we don’t want your trustworthy kind here.
I would say the majority of your points are solid. What I don’t agree with is how the DHS skirts the issue when asked by representatives.
http://aroundotown.blogspot.com/2013/03/a-lot-of-talk-about-dhs-ammo.html
BTW, your Rick Taylor stuff is hilarious. The similarity to some other cyber ‘operators’ is uncanny.
Here are some other funny guys:
http://aroundotown.blogspot.com/2013/03/tac-tards-and-mall-ninjas-unite.html
See link in article:
http://westmoreland.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=642&Itemid=372
Thank you for being the Adult in the Room.
Boring facts and Reality are great medicine for paranoid ramblings on the internet.
keep it up.
Thank you.
Unfortunately those who read infowars who refute every thing you have researched, though I will still point them to this video because I like to bang my head on a brick wall for fun.
The only flaw I see is the question of armored vehicles. The USMC buys MRAPs for all of the Federal Government. So just because the USMC bought 2,717 Maxxpros doesn’t mean they didn’t end up at DHS (I doubt they did and 16 sounds about right). The same is true for M4 Carbines, the Army buys all the M4s under one contract and the other services and agencies get them from the Army. To summarize, just becasue the USMC bought the MRAPs doesn’t mean they did not go to DHS (although in this case they probably didn’t).
Cool, so they’ve placed purchase orders for four times what they’ve historically needed. Seems legit.
Uh…no.
Uh…yes 🙂 The video said that they’ve placed purchase orders for a few times more than they’ve historically needed. I calculated based on the total number of maximum possible purchases that they now have around 2.3B deliverable maximum over five years, in addition to their pre-existing supplies of 264M, which is a little over four times more than their historic normal usage of 600M/5 years.
Seems legit 🙂
The video did not say that.
The video does say that theyâve placed purchase orders for a few times more than theyâve historically needed. At 0:44 the video says **up**to** 450M rounds, and at 1:08 it said 750M round ceiling which right there is up to twice their needs for five years.
Yes I realize the video is saying this is a ceiling maximum amount and that the actual amount purchased may be much lower. I just think it’s odd that this ceiling amount is (when you look at other bids and include existing inventory) more than four times their five-year historical averages.
That is all 🙂
I made the video, and I did not imply that in any manner or find any inkling of that being the case in any of the research I did. You are making tremendous leaps in logic that are not supported by any facts – only conjecture on your part.
I’m taking direct statements from your video. I even gave timestamps. You made statements like “up to 450 million” and “up to 750 million,” etc. and “this is a ceiling/maximum” which I fully agree with. I just think it’s odd that the ceilings are so darned high. 4.27 times higher than their historical norms.
Maybe you want to watch your video again? ^_^
You’re not comparing the same data sets from past to present. You’re taking the actual purchases from previous years without looking to see what the contracts were like, and you’re apparently still not understanding that those numbers are spread out over 5 years.
I’m not going to waste any more time with you on this, any further comments of yours down this rabbit hole will be removed.
I do understand those things but there’s obviously some sort of miscommunication here so I agree, best to just drop it. God bless!
(Well, it’s true I didn’t look at previous contracts. Still think it’s odd they’d have such a large cap. And that’s all.)
*up to four times